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Bottom view of 115.
Here you can see the odd NEMA tag.

It is half red, half white, and it has a THIRTY TWO on it!

Anyone even know what this means? Is it metal halide? What would the wattage be?
Keywords: American_Streetlights

Bottom view of 115.

Here you can see the odd NEMA tag.

It is half red, half white, and it has a THIRTY TWO on it!

Anyone even know what this means? Is it metal halide? What would the wattage be?

ov252.jpg ovx.jpg 32.jpg 115fl.jpg ov25~2.jpg
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Album name:Lil'Cinnamon / Streetlighting OUTSIDE of Colorado
Keywords:American_Streetlights
Company and Date Manufactured:American Electric
Model Number:115
Wattage:???
Lamp Type:???
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Date added:Oct 26, 2010
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Form109   [Oct 26, 2010 at 05:02 AM]
i think its 320 Watt Pulse Start Metal Halide......
gailgrove   [Oct 26, 2010 at 07:28 PM]
Yep 320 watt PSMH but the colour Confused
Silverliner14B   [Oct 26, 2010 at 07:58 PM]
They went from low CRI white light to high CRI white light instead of going to crime orange. Very Happy
mercuryvaporrocks   [Oct 26, 2010 at 10:53 PM]
I though they only offered the 115 up to 250 watt max.
Form109   [Oct 27, 2010 at 12:25 AM]
i went to AEL's website and it shows a 320 Watt PSMH 115 is indeed avalible...
GullWhiz   [Oct 27, 2010 at 01:54 PM]
I don't believe high wattage PSMH is a problem in smaller fixtures, only HPS.....
gailgrove   [Oct 27, 2010 at 03:55 PM]
The 115 is available in up to 400 watt HPS and yet for some odd reason according to there web site is only available in 250 watt MH or PSMH so maybe this was retrofitted with 320 watt PSMH but this tag is still to weird Confused
Form109   [Oct 27, 2010 at 09:00 PM]
how come HPS is sensitive to excess IR being reflected on the arctube?

wouldn't this be the cause of large wattages in small reflectors?
Silverliner14B   [Oct 28, 2010 at 12:25 AM]
Today I saw a few new M400A3 fcos that have these weird red and white tags. I think they are 400w pulse start.

I still wonder if there will be a problem using a 320w lamp in a small luminaire. Physically the 320w lamp is the same size as a 175w or 250w lamp, but being higher wattage, more heat is produced and maybe that will cook the ballast? MH lamps get physically hot.
streetlight98   [Sep 30, 2011 at 01:28 PM]
I somehow doubt that this bi-color NEMA tag is actually NEMA designated. Isn't the definition of a NEMA tag pretty much black numbers representing 1/10 of the wattage on a single color background? I personally would use an all red tag with "PULSE START TECHNOLEGY" on the bottom.
GullWhiz   [Sep 30, 2011 at 02:19 PM]
Nope, it IS NEMA designated....I saw them in stock in the shop in Local Electric Company, plus I saw those in one of the NYC bridges...the new fixtures where I live has those tags........
gailgrove   [Sep 30, 2011 at 02:23 PM]
What exactly are all the NEMA designations, I know - blue = mercury, red = MH, yellow/gold = HPS, tan = LPS, red & white = PSMH and purple = incandescent. Are there any others or is that it?
streetlight98   [Sep 30, 2011 at 03:07 PM]
I've seen whit tags on induction lights and green on LED, but I'm not sure if those are NEMA desiganted. I don't like the red/white PMH tags. They should be red and just say "pulse metal halide" or something. As far as i know, Cooper used red tags with PMH in the corner of the tag.
LilCinnamon   [Sep 30, 2011 at 03:15 PM]
Replacement M-400 R3's in Bailey have these Red and white tags like this one, but they have MV lamps in them since IREA loves MV. I also saw tags like this in Louisiana in a city.
gailgrove   [Sep 30, 2011 at 03:17 PM]
Uh then those mercury lamps are going to have a very short life on a PSMH ballast Shocked Are you sure they where coated PSMH lamps?
streetlight98   [Sep 30, 2011 at 03:21 PM]
They were most likely coated PMH lamps. MV will work on the PMH ballast without the ignitor though. It might not last as long.
LilCinnamon   [Sep 30, 2011 at 05:35 PM]
They probably took the ignitor out. I know they are MV because the color, I saw them lit at night and all of them even the MV fixture have the same bluish-green color, so I Know they are MV.
streetlight98   [Sep 30, 2011 at 06:11 PM]
MH can have color variations, but they very well could have been mercury vapor.
joe_347V   [Oct 01, 2011 at 02:42 AM]
There's also green tags for HPS in Canada, and I wonder if anyone made MH tags with PRMH for probe start and PSMH abbreviations for pulse start?
streetlight98   [Oct 01, 2011 at 02:45 AM]
PRMH isn't used. I think it's just "MH" and pulse metal halide is "PMH"

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