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Newly-added Convenience outlet
I rewired the deck street light display, adding an outlet. The outlet was NOS from the ReStore. The cover and box itself are used from the ReStore. The box, cover, and outlet cost me 25 cents TOTAL! I bought the UF cable and cable/box connectors at Lowe's along with the round box and cover.
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Newly-added Convenience outlet

I rewired the deck street light display, adding an outlet. The outlet was NOS from the ReStore. The cover and box itself are used from the ReStore. The box, cover, and outlet cost me 25 cents TOTAL! I bought the UF cable and cable/box connectors at Lowe's along with the round box and cover.

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GEsoftwhite100watts   [May 10, 2015 at 03:36 AM]
But it's not a GFCI! Laughing Or is something ahead of it GFCi'd?
Granted, none of my outlets are GFCI, even the one less than a foot from the bathroom sink.
joe_347V   [May 10, 2015 at 06:44 AM]
I think he plugs the entire thing into a GFCI outlet so it does have GFCI protection.

My bathroom and outdoor outlets are GFCI. I never retrofitted the kitchen outlets with them because I would have needed 2-pole GFCI breakers which cost a arm and a leg to buy. I believe the last time I looked at prices they cost $150 for a 15A 2-pole unit. Shocked
streetlight98   [May 10, 2015 at 02:01 PM]
Yeah the outlets on my house are all GFCIs so this is automatically GFCI protected. Same as the shed light display.
streetlight98   [May 26, 2015 at 10:43 PM]
Well, the romex staples have began to rust already. Laughing Actually, they developed slight surface rust a week or so ago, and the installation is less than three weeks old lol.
joe_347V   [May 28, 2015 at 02:05 PM]
Laughing I wonder if the plastic ones would have fared better. Although you might want to replace the nails with galvanized ones. Razz
streetlight98   [May 28, 2015 at 08:25 PM]
LOL yeah probably. Laughing I already have like a thousand of these laying around from when I cleaned the shelf in my late-grandpa's basement so I figured "why not use them up?" lol.
traffic light1   [Jan 20, 2016 at 10:22 AM]
Looks Nice! I am a huge Emt pipe person but here it would not look so good + the wet compression fittings would of looked big.
streetlight98   [Jan 20, 2016 at 01:02 PM]
Thanks! Yeah if this was a permanent installation I would have used the KO on the back of the box for the wires so it would look neater.
lightingfan8902   [Jan 20, 2016 at 04:42 PM]
I can see why that GFCI outlets can't go outside, cause of maybe the humidity thats outside, at my place, a bunch of humidity.
streetlight98   [Jan 20, 2016 at 06:28 PM]
This is GFCI protected. This is wired to a circuit that is already GFCI protected so a GFCI receptacle is not required (or safe, as the two GFCIs would interfere with each other).
lightingfan8902   [Jan 20, 2016 at 08:55 PM]
I know but I was talking about the one with the switch on it with a light.
traffic light1   [Jan 20, 2016 at 09:40 PM]
2020 all outlets have to be GFI, All beakers have to be arc fault too
GEsoftwhite100watts   [Jan 21, 2016 at 12:08 AM]
Oh wow, I had no idea! Will (replacement) non-GFCI outlets still be made?

I had no idea GFCIs would "Interfere" with each other either!
streetlight98   [Jan 21, 2016 at 12:55 AM]
@ lightingfan: Ah I see.
@ Brian: wow that's a little overkill in my opinion. Shocked Where did you read that? I didn't know about the GFCI thing, though I knew about the AFCI breakers (I hate those things; there's no real reason for them other than to nuisance trip lol) I guess I should stockpile on regular breakers since those AFCI breakers ain't cheap!
@ Andy: Yeah they'll keep making those because one GFCI outlet will protect the whole circuit. I think Brian means they all just have to be GFCI-protected, meaning you could actually just use GFCI breakers and then use all regular duplex outlets. The breakers are very expensive though. Most people opt for the $14 GFCI outlet which does the same thing. The only place I'd prefer to use GFCI breakers over GFCI outlets is outdoors because the humidity destroys the GFCI outlets over time. The one in my backyard doesn't allow you to press the "TEST" button so I have a feeling it won't be saving anyone from a ground fault. Laughing The outlet still works too, which is a little nuts. They're supposed to fail off. The old ones from the 70s and 80s didn't fail off but by the 90s it was an option and now it's required (no idea why it should be an option at all since allowing it to fail on is just as bad as not having a GFCI! And since most people don't actually use the T and R buttons, a failed one would go undetected).

BTW I should also note that this thing filled up with water in late summer and when I lifted the flap/cover as you see in the pic, brown water poured out. So I got the hose and put "jet" mode on and washed all the rust-water out (it had been eating at the paint inside the box, but the box is aluminum so it was the outlet that was rusting). Then I dried it out, replaced the outlet, and sealed all the seams with liquid electrical tape. As far as I know it's remained dry. It's at least not bad enough for the water to pour out of the outlet slots lol. It could be a serious issue if it shorted hot/neutral together though or shorted to ground (especially since that faulty GFCI I mentioned is what this light gets plugged into lol). If it fills up again I'm going to replace this with a blank cover over the box since I don't think I've used this outlet since I installed it anyway.
Antstar85   [Jan 21, 2016 at 01:31 AM]
Not all outlets are required to be GFCI. My code book is in my truck but GFCI is required for outdoor, kitchen outlets, bathroom, laundry, and garage. In the 2014 edition of the code, garbage disposal and dishwashers were added. Habitable rooms, such as living rooms, bedrooms, dens etc. do not need GFCI protection but are required to be on AFCI on new installs or if the circuit is modified during a remodel. Kitchen outlets were added in 2014 to be AFCI as well as GFCI. They make a combo breaker that does both usually running around $45.
streetlight98   [Jan 21, 2016 at 02:22 AM]
Interesting stuff. My house was made in 2003 and has GFCIs in the kitchen, garage, bathrooms, and outside but there is no GFCI for the washer machine. There is a GFCI outlet next to the subpanel in the utility room. We actually never knew it existed for almost 10 years after the house was built because when they put that white plastic sheeting over the insulation on the exposed-stud unfinished walls, they never cut out around the outlet so it remained hidden behind the white sheeting for years until I noticed it. So I got a box cutter blade and cut an opening around the box. Oh and for AFCIs I know the bedrooms have them but I think that's it. Nothing in the basement is AFCI; the whole basement subpanel has regular breakers (aside from the double-pole 240V breakers for the AC and dryer).

BTW, Tony, I'm sending you a PM in a few.
GEsoftwhite100watts   [Jan 21, 2016 at 04:10 AM]
I remember having one fail "Off", in a house built in '88. It's replacement tripped whenever it rained, since one of the things plugged into said outlet was an extension cord for a fountain/areator pump in a pond...(extension cord with pump plugged in just laying on the ground).
traffic light1   [Jan 28, 2016 at 10:00 AM]
Antstar85 2020 not 2014

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