The L-150s did come in 400 watt MV, there is one near me, but it's been out for the past 2 years...or so.....also GE M-250R2 did come in 400 watt HPS but got discontinued....The same goes for OVS in 400 watt, but after the OVS in 400 watt, came along the OVX!
Hm I would only consider something from the 70s or earlier to be vintage. Maybe 80s if it's a rare/uncommon light such as the 100W MV M-250A2 FCOs we have here in RI.
well the AACA considers cars to be antique's if they're at least 25 Years old....if I apply that logic to lights then a light made before 1990 would be qualify lol. just a random thought....but seriously I don't know if there's any technical set criteria to classify streetlights as modern,classics or antiques. iMO anything made before 1960 would be an antique to me 1961-1985 a Classic and 1985-present a modern design. just food for the thought.
Hmm well i guess the 25-year rule of thumb works too... I'm a little incorrect when I classify my collection items as NOS. Technically NOS is new old stock, never been used or installed. But i've used all my NOS lights, lamps, and PCs. I still consider them to be NOS though. Once a lamp starts showing wear i don't consider it NOS anymore. My lights will always be NOS in my book no matter how much i run them. The only way I would consider one of my lights not NOS is if it were exposed to the weather (not talking about being installed outside overnight, i mean being outside for more than i couple nights or exposed to rain, snow, etc). I know the term NOS technically doesn't apply to any of my lights since I've used them all but I still call them that because they were never used before i got them and never "officially" put to use.
I agree with you Form109. Cars and lights kind of have a linear relationship of development as lights were made for lighting the way for cars. Also, I think it's fair to say they age similarly and have the same life expectancies, so the car modern/classic/antique timeline could be directly apply to lumes IMO.
then I think are newer versions of an old fixture classics or modern? for example comparing an Original OV25 to a more recent cooper version or the Original AE 13-000 to the current 115.
though to be fair in light of how small the lighting hobby is Old lights are looked upon as just outdated old lights....the general population wont look upon a 1967 streetlight fixture the way they will perceive say a car made in 1967....me personally I value a classic light as much as a classic car. and in a way obtaining a classic light is much more in reach than a classic car....much cheaper too.
on a different note....great pic Dave. the silverliners look good on those poles.
Yeah a classic/vintage car is a classic/vintage car to everyone. Personally I like "cool looking" cars, not so much vintage or classic.
As for the newer Cooper incarnation of the OV-25 and the 115, would you consider a 2014 Toyota Corolla to be vintage just because the Toyota Corolla first came out in 1966? It's the same name and each generation is based off the same idea of an economical compact car but the Corolla has undergone some really drastic changes over the years.
The 115 is a totally different model altogether. They may have had some inspiration from the 13-000 but if anything it's just a redesigned 113.
The Cooper OV-25 (or whatever Cooper calls it now, the OVW or something?) is the same name and it's similar to the Canadian Westinghouse OV-25s but the reflector is different and other things have changed too. I'd consider the new OV-25 and 115 to be just modern lights.
well im considering the 115 & 113 to be an evolution of the Original 13-000 in the same manner I consider the current OV-25 an evolution of the original....the design changed but not enough so in my opinion to warrant it being branded as something completely new....but since were doing the car comparison to say that is like when Chrysler introduced the 200 to replace the sebring...touting it as an all new model...true enough the updates were signifigant and much welcomed but not enough to justify rebadging it.
the definition of a "cool" car is strictly on an individual basis lol.
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though to be fair in light of how small the lighting hobby is Old lights are looked upon as just outdated old lights....the general population wont look upon a 1967 streetlight fixture the way they will perceive say a car made in 1967....me personally I value a classic light as much as a classic car. and in a way obtaining a classic light is much more in reach than a classic car....much cheaper too.
on a different note....great pic Dave. the silverliners look good on those poles.
As for the newer Cooper incarnation of the OV-25 and the 115, would you consider a 2014 Toyota Corolla to be vintage just because the Toyota Corolla first came out in 1966? It's the same name and each generation is based off the same idea of an economical compact car but the Corolla has undergone some really drastic changes over the years.
The 115 is a totally different model altogether. They may have had some inspiration from the 13-000 but if anything it's just a redesigned 113.
The Cooper OV-25 (or whatever Cooper calls it now, the OVW or something?) is the same name and it's similar to the Canadian Westinghouse OV-25s but the reflector is different and other things have changed too. I'd consider the new OV-25 and 115 to be just modern lights.
the definition of a "cool" car is strictly on an individual basis lol.