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Title: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Vince on December 20, 2009, 09:00:10 PM
All HID ballasts follow the ANSI code which wants to mark a code on every ballast to make identification of wattage and type of lamp easier. Here's a list of the ANSI codes with their corresponding wattage.

P.S.: This list is obviously not complete. Just contact us and we'll add any new code  ;)

Mercury vapor:

H33: 400W
H36: 1000W
H37: 250W
H38: 100W
H39: 175W
H43: 75W (to confirm)
H44: 100/125W
H45: 40W
H46: 50W

*Note: All mercury vapor lamps have an Open Circuit Voltage of 225 - 300V, except 700W and 1000W ones which have a higher OCV (around 450 - 500V)

High pressure sodium:

S50: 250W
S51: 400W
S52: 1000W
S54: 100W
S55: 150W (55V)
S56: 150W (100V)
S62: 70W
S66: 200W
S68: 50W
S76: 35W

Metal Halide (PS = Pulse Start):

1000w: M47 (PS)
1500w: M48 (PS)
250w: M58 (PS)
20w: M175
22w : M130
35/39w: M130
50w: M110
70w: M98
100w: M90
150w: M102
175w: M57
175w: M152 (PS)
200w: M136
250w: M153
320w: M154
350w: M131
360w: M165
400w: M59 (PS)
400w: M155
450w: M144
750w: M149
875w: M166
1000w: M141
1650w: M112 (PS)

Low pressure sodium:

18W: L69
35W: L70
55W: L71
90W: L72
135W: L73
180W: L74
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: rjluna2 on December 21, 2009, 07:32:15 AM
There is M90 for 100W MH.
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Vince on December 21, 2009, 12:27:43 PM
Thanks, I'm still completing this list as of now.  ;)
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Medved on December 21, 2009, 02:15:00 PM
If you are browsing trough specs, you might add electrical characteristics (most important are: lamp current, ignitor yes/no and how many kV peak, expected arc voltage, OCV for lead and lag types, etc...), they would become handy, if someone want to find replacement (e.g. use some MH ballast to power MV lamp, ballast for foreign lamp,...)
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Jace the Gull on December 22, 2009, 11:44:03 AM
Just like a 150 watt 100 Volt HPS will work on a MH 150 watt ballast...and I think vice versa..not sure..
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: FGS on December 22, 2009, 04:16:43 PM
Here's a more complete list of ballast codes and lamp used: Pulled this list that I made on LG.

Mercury Vapor
40w    – H45
50w    – H46
75/80w    – H43
100w    – H38
100/125w    – H44
175w    – H39
250w    – H37
400w    – H33
700w    – H35
1000w    – H34
1000w    – H36

Metal Halide (Red's Probe Start, Rest's Pulse Start)
20w    – M175
22w    – M130
35/39w    – M130
50w    – M110
70w    – M98
100w    – M90
150w    – M102
175w    – M57
175w    – M152
200w    – M136
250w    – M58
250w    – M153
320w    – M154
350w    – M131
360w    – M165
400w    – M59
400w    – M155
450w    – M144
750w    – M149
875w    – M166
1000w    – M47
1000w    – M141
1500w    – M48
1650w    – M112

Double Ended Metal Halide
70w    – M85
100w    – M91
150w    – M81
250w    – M80
1500w    – M133
2000w    – M134

Low Pressure Sodium Vapor
18w    – L69
35w    – L70
55w    – L71
90w    – L72
135w    – L73
180w    – L74

High Pressure Sodium Vapor
35w    – S76
50w    – S68
70w    – S62
100w    – S54
150w    – S55 55v
150w    – S56 100v
200w    – S66
250w    – S50
310w    – S67
400w    – S51
430w    – S145
600w    – S106
750w    – S111
1000w    – S52

Sorry I don't have the detailed specs.
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Medved on December 23, 2009, 02:57:34 AM
Are not all MH's 150W and below pulse start only?
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Post by: A_lights on December 24, 2009, 04:38:38 PM
Below 150W is pulse start only, some even use lower voltage or "cheap" ignitors which is not true pulse start. , and they have a 10 Min restrike time.  And probe start in 150W is M107, which is made!
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Medved on December 24, 2009, 05:42:04 PM
Other question came to my mind: What is the difference between M98 vs  M95 (or M90 vs M91, M102 vs M81, etc)? As far as i know, double vs single ended lamps have the same electrical spec and here (in Europe) are operated on the same ballasts (along with HPS of the same wattage).
Or the "double ended" ballasts (M95, M91, M81,...) do have higher ignition voltage for hot restrike capability (allowed on double-ended lamps)?
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Vince on January 06, 2010, 06:50:17 PM
It's actually like standard 100W mercury lamps (H38) ans PAR38 100W mercury vapor spotlights (H44 I think), they are electrically the same, but somehow the ANSI gave them their own separate ballast.
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Medved on January 07, 2010, 01:45:05 AM
It's actually like standard 100W mercury lamps (H38) ans PAR38 100W mercury vapor spotlights (H44 I think), they are electrically the same, but somehow the ANSI gave them their own separate ballast.

Doesn't the H38 deliver 0.95A (originally for 100W) and H44 1.15A (for 125W)?
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Vince on January 07, 2010, 01:37:31 PM
I don't know the ANSI code for the PAR38 mercury lamp (I thought it was H44), but those are electrically similar to any 100W mercury lamp.
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Medved on January 07, 2010, 03:48:11 PM
I thought this ANSI coding system describe only electrical parameters of the ballast<->lamp interface (current vs voltage characteristics, ignition pulse voltage and energy,...), not any bulb shape or so...

It does not mean, then some 100W MV could not be designed for 1.15A arc current, so need H44 ballast (in the PAR assembly this would allow shorter and thicker arc, so more efficient optic, but i don't know the exact spec of the MV 100W PAR you mentioned).
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: A_lights on January 17, 2010, 02:45:35 AM
so would it be okay to use a westy lifeguard that specifies H4,H38,and H44 on a 100w MH ballast wtithout ignitor?  What is the H4 ballast? I think it could be a 80 or 90W ballast.
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Medved on January 17, 2010, 02:51:34 AM
If it specify H38, then yes...
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: rjluna2 on February 03, 2010, 01:54:52 PM
TiCoune66, are you planning on posting the list of old ANSI Ballast code?
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Vince on February 03, 2010, 07:21:16 PM
Boy ... I should find them all. I think that only the ballast codes for mercury lamps changed. I know that H1 is the former H33 and H22, the former H39, but that's it, I don't know the others.

When I have a complete list, I'll post it here  ;)
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: FGS on February 03, 2010, 08:32:04 PM
No need. I have the complete list. It's the same thread. Just moved it to the first page. (This is the second page.)

I am gonna make a new thread and post them there.
Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: joe_347V on February 22, 2012, 11:30:02 PM
Hmm I also wonder what are the old ANSI codes for MV lamps

So far I got

Wattage    Old ANSI Code     New ANSI Code
100w   H4H38
175wH22H39
250wH5*H37
400wH1H33
700wH18**H35
1000w (130V arctube)H12***H34
1000w (250V arctube)H15*H36

Notes:

* Guesses made using the order code in old GE Bonusline lamps.

** From old lamp listings on eBay

*** From here (http://www.lighting-gallery.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-57554) on LG.

Title: Re: Found a HID ballast? Take a look here!
Post by: Mike on August 16, 2012, 02:07:40 PM
Why did they change the ballast codes? I also wonder why they chose the numbers they did and why they're all out of order. :-\