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Well there goes a weird but cool double guy wire pole :( 
Gone for road work in downtown. It may still be there since I found this online. But I've never seen a pole like this so I wanted to share it with you all. 
Keywords: American_Streetlights

Well there goes a weird but cool double guy wire pole :(

Gone for road work in downtown. It may still be there since I found this online. But I've never seen a pole like this so I wanted to share it with you all.

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Filename:SAM_2418.JPG
Album name:Coolcat97 / Street Lighting
Keywords:American_Streetlights
Company and Date Manufactured:General Electric
Model Number:M250A2
Wattage:250
Lamp Type:High pressure sodium
Filesize:142 KiB
Date added:Jul 23, 2015
Dimensions:1280 x 720 pixels
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DateTime Original:2014:10:24 21:34:54
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Model:HMX-F90
URL:http://www.galleryoflights.org/mb/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=19657
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streetlight98   [Jul 24, 2015 at 08:59 AM]
No idea. Neutral I only know a few manufacturers since they have distinct looks.
NiMo   [Apr 18, 2017 at 01:49 AM]
Offset height combination poles are fairly common when you have dual height roadways.
streetlight98   [Apr 18, 2017 at 02:37 AM]
Poles like this are built-to-spec for specific jobs. There are some around here with different heights. National Grid uses HAPCO poles here just like New England Electric System (Narragansett Electric and Massachusetts Electric) used before NGrid took over. NGrid hasn't used any dual height poles that I'm aware of but NEES used them sometimes in places like NiMo said where there's a ramp or another road at a higher elevation than another. The higher road would have a full pole with a light at the top where the lower road would have the arm mounted lower on the pole so that if a full pole were installed, the light would be at that height (i.e. both lights would be 35ft off the road surface for example).
xmaslightguy   [Apr 20, 2017 at 11:56 PM]
No need for 'snipping tool' (never used or even knew what it was for)
Just right-click the pic, and 'save image as...'

Nice old lights.. probably will be replaced with LED Sad
Coolcat97   [Apr 21, 2017 at 12:43 AM]
Nope we don't use LED here. It's probably PSMH with removed ignitors and MV bulbs. Or HPS. It may be installed back, they usually reuse poles. This was from awhile ago anyway. OnCor maintains and installs MV/MH up to 1000w. One of the last major cities to do such a thing.
streetlight98   [Apr 21, 2017 at 02:41 AM]
@ xmas: Can't do that with Streetview though, so it doesn't work for all solutions. You could Printscreen it but then you still have to crop out the excess stuff. Snipping Tool is very easy to use. Pin it to the start menu so it's easy to get to, click it when you want to use it, then your cursor becomes a "+" and you start at one corner of what you want to capture and hold the mouse clicker down and drag the cursor across the screen and let go when you've framed in what you want to capture. Then a window pops up and you give it a title and save it.

@ Coolcat: They don't make 1000W MH cobraheads anymore unfortunately. AEL discontinued them. Too bad since a 1000W MH 327 would've been cool. TBH I wouldn't be surprised if they leave the ignitors in place. I'm surprised they do that though. I've heard the higher specs on the HPS 400W lamp can hurt the 400W MV lamp over time when used on the HPS ballast.
Coolcat97   [Apr 21, 2017 at 03:04 AM]
I looked online and they still sell it, plus we have red tagged 327s.
ZarlogH46   [Apr 21, 2017 at 04:09 AM]
It really is stupid that AEL discontinued metal halide on the 327. They don't even have a compatible LED replacement! (the highest lumen rating on the LEDs they make is only 30,000 lumens which is a bit less than a 400w probe start metal halide). 1kw HPS ballasts can run metal halide lamps with the ignitor disconnected however, so maybe they discontinued the metal halide to streamline the selection since the HPS version could run it.
Coolcat97   [Apr 21, 2017 at 09:59 AM]
The reason I know they disconnect the ignitors is I've watched OnCor do that, plus my friends dad works for them and explained what they do. I'm working on a mass changeout to PSMH with removed ignitors running MV bulbs and also every old fixture being put back that was taken out in the 90's in my area and some parts of Dallas. They kept MV in neighborhoods amd downtown and parks and such but replaced the other areas with HPS. There's also an area in my suburb that kept MV entirely.
streetlight98   [Apr 21, 2017 at 10:12 AM]
@ Cool Cat: Mmm no they don't Check their spec sheet on their website. HPS only for the 327 now...
xmaslightguy   [Apr 22, 2017 at 12:44 AM]
@Coolcat97:
Wow.. awesome that they are still using MV Shocked
(only MV left here that I know of is in some neighborhoods)
Pretty much anything here where they do a major construction project would be replaced with LED...
Then there's all the other HPS that are simply being 'upgraded' to LED for no good reason.

@Mike:
True, the right-click thing will work for pic's but not streetview since that's flash, not a picture. Laughing
(so its a case where I would just print-screen)

For the start-menu, I'm very picky about where stuff is placed Laughing . Snipping Tool would be placed down 2 or 3 levels.

If its win 8, I won't use that tile mess, but simply add the start-menu back (since its already there anyway)
streetlight98   [Apr 22, 2017 at 03:08 AM]
Yeah the computers at my school have Windows 10 and they have that stupid tile page. I just want a normal start menu. So there is a way to get it like Windows 7? I'm so used to Windows 7 I don't want to switch to anything else but Microsoft is discontinuing updates for 7 so next computer I get will have to have windows 10 unfortunately...
Coolcat97   [Apr 22, 2017 at 03:37 AM]
Classic shell mike. That's what'll give you that.
LilCinnamon   [Apr 22, 2017 at 09:49 PM]
@xmaslightguy Yeah last time I visited Denver I saw they were upgrading everything to LED/ I saw some ares that weren't upgraded but all the roads I remember from my childhood are all different now. Though MV was scarce from the get go. Here in Mountain Home and the vicinity area I see lots of older lights still around and LED roadway lightning is still scarce until you go to the bigger cities which are still pretty far away from here. Even up in Missouri most of the cobraheads are still the cooper fixtures.

I believe they did a huge HPS changout in the Denver metro long ago cause I only remember all the HPS lights and no MV. Some areas had the but it was few. Now it's all going LED
xmaslightguy   [Apr 23, 2017 at 02:13 AM]
@Mike:
No need for any downloads with Win 8 to put a start menu on. I haven't tested with Win 10 since I haven't used it (and deff don't want it for myself. To me makes no difference if Micro$oft discontinues support for it, I'll keep using the old stuff Laughing )

For Win 8:
* Go to desktop
* Right-click any blank area of the taskbar, if "Lock the taskbar" is checked, uncheck it.
* Click on the desktop to close the menu.
* Again right-click any blank area of the taskbar, select 'Toolbars' and 'New Toolbar'
* Type "c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu" (without the quotes) and hit enter.
^^ (note "c:" is the default hard-drive on many computers, but on some it may be different, use whatever yours happens to be)
Now you'll have a simplified version of the 'start menu' on the taskbar - located on the right end, before the clock. (you can drag this to the left where it belongs, and re-size it so "programs" doesn't show)
This should even work on work/school computers where you wouldn't be able to install software (ie Classic Shell)

Maybe try it & see if it works on Win 10...
I'd be curious to know myself.
xmaslightguy   [Apr 23, 2017 at 02:32 AM]
@Lil'Cinnamon:
Yep, they've changed out allot of to LED in the past couple years in and around Denver, but even the mountain highways aren't immune to being LED'ed.
Where I'm at is still all HPS in the neighborhoods, and mostly HPS with some LED mixed in on the main roads.

Not sure how old you are, but the MV -to- HPS changeout might have been before your time? It was indeed a long time ago Laughing
I remember even seeing the guys replace a couple streetlights on my street (but thought they were just fixing... til that night when the nice blue was suddenly what I thought of as a really ugly orange).
If someone back then had told me "when you're old you'll own some lights with those orange bulbs" I would never have believed them...I really hated the color. Now here it is and I have a few HPS wall-lights + the 1 GE M250R2 Smile
Coolcat97   [Apr 23, 2017 at 03:57 AM]
Bailey, Colorado took out the MV in the entire town.
xmaslightguy   [Apr 23, 2017 at 04:15 AM]
@Coolcat97:
I knew 285 through Bailey had been LED'ed (even have a pic on one of the LED fixtures in my gallery)...
But wasn't sure on the rest of the town. Thought I still saw some of the old lights last time I went by there (could have been when they were still in the process of changing?)
Coolcat97   [Apr 23, 2017 at 04:25 AM]
I went in 2016 after being there in 2014. I was so sad the old light by the Bigfoot outpost was replaced with an LED area light thingy.
xmaslightguy   [Apr 23, 2017 at 04:42 PM]
@Coolcat97:
I was through there a few times in 2016 as well (just passing through on the highway).. looking back into the town I know I saw some MV a couple of the times. Sad that its all gone now Sad

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