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My toilet installed in basement.
Not lighting related, but I thought I show this because of the other toilet related image I saw posted.

This is a Kohler Wellcomme toilet from 1986 that I installed here in my basement, as you guys don't know all that much about toilets, I will explain some things.

Previously, there was a tank toilet that was installed in here, and then I did some pipework behind the walls to convert it into a Flushometer commercial-type toilet. As noted these types of toilets are not usually installed in homes because of restrictions and limitations. I got lucky that it was possible to install one here. In the next room over I installed an expansion bladder tank to make sure the pressure is maintained when flushed and doesn't take a whole bunch of pressure for the rest of the house.

These Flushometer valves are designed to take water directly from the water mains and flush the toilet. Toilets usually have tanks because toilets are a siphonic design, so it needs a large amount of water in a short period of time to trigger the siphon effect and empty the bowl, and in residential applications it usually is very hard to accomplish. In my house, the whole house plumbing is run in by a single 3/4 inch diamater pipe, which really restricts and limits that, I mean when everything else is shut off in the house, the toilet will flush fine from the mains even with a 1/2 inch diameter pipe. One advantage is this toilet get the first priority out of any other fixture in the house for the plumbing, as it is the first thing that is fed from the pipe line.

The expansion tank is what helps maintain the pressure, as it has a bladder in it with air and it acts like a spring and stores water. So when the Flushometer is off the tank is filled and when you flush the toilet, the tank empties and the bladder expands letting the water out of it and keeping pressure, so when the flushometer is running it's short flush duration, very little water get's diverted into the tank while the tank empties.
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My toilet installed in basement.

Not lighting related, but I thought I show this because of the other toilet related image I saw posted.

This is a Kohler Wellcomme toilet from 1986 that I installed here in my basement, as you guys don't know all that much about toilets, I will explain some things.

Previously, there was a tank toilet that was installed in here, and then I did some pipework behind the walls to convert it into a Flushometer commercial-type toilet. As noted these types of toilets are not usually installed in homes because of restrictions and limitations. I got lucky that it was possible to install one here. In the next room over I installed an expansion bladder tank to make sure the pressure is maintained when flushed and doesn't take a whole bunch of pressure for the rest of the house.

These Flushometer valves are designed to take water directly from the water mains and flush the toilet. Toilets usually have tanks because toilets are a siphonic design, so it needs a large amount of water in a short period of time to trigger the siphon effect and empty the bowl, and in residential applications it usually is very hard to accomplish. In my house, the whole house plumbing is run in by a single 3/4 inch diamater pipe, which really restricts and limits that, I mean when everything else is shut off in the house, the toilet will flush fine from the mains even with a 1/2 inch diameter pipe. One advantage is this toilet get the first priority out of any other fixture in the house for the plumbing, as it is the first thing that is fed from the pipe line.

The expansion tank is what helps maintain the pressure, as it has a bladder in it with air and it acts like a spring and stores water. So when the Flushometer is off the tank is filled and when you flush the toilet, the tank empties and the bladder expands letting the water out of it and keeping pressure, so when the flushometer is running it's short flush duration, very little water get's diverted into the tank while the tank empties.

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LilCinnamon   [Jun 10, 2014 at 07:56 PM]
To continue on since there is a character limit, it maintains the pressure and doesn't suck everything else in the house.

But I was lucky it was so easy to do. I recently moved into this house a year ago, I'm in Highlands Ranch now.

I really need to start taking streetlight photos again, but there is nothing all that interesting to show here. You've seen it all in my pictures. xD

But I can try to upload more pictures. It just depends. My current interest main is toilets right now, though I'm still into streetlights, and always will be.
streetlight98   [Jun 10, 2014 at 08:48 PM]
Cool! I like these toilets since they rarely get clogged like tank toilets but the one thing I don't like about these is how loud they are. Tank toilets are generally nice and quiet. Is there a reason these are so much louder? I've tinkered with the "chicago PUSH faucets" at school before. Apparently there's a spring that you can adjust to make the water stay on longer. I've been pulling the knobs off all the sinks I use throughout the day and have been altering the spring to make the water stay on longer because the way they set them up, they shut off anywhere from instantly after you let go to within 7 seconds, and that's not enough time to wash your hands. They should be on for 20-30 seconds IMO.
Form109   [Jun 11, 2014 at 02:35 AM]
i too notice the noisy,violent flush of the tankless toliets. they aren't as asthetically pleasing as tanked toliets but the flush is nice and strong and they rarely clog.....a somewhat compromise between the two is a tanked toilet equipped with a flushmate!
GEsoftwhite100watts   [Jun 11, 2014 at 05:02 AM]
Once at someone's house with one of those really swirly low-flow toilets during a party someone commented, "That's a bad@$$ toilet to get a swirly in!"
Yeah I've also noticed the tankless toilets are really LOUD!
My late mother's house had a toilet in the garage and for whatever reason (air?) would get in the pipes and vibrate the whole system...could that have been "water hammer"? I don't think so since it would happen long after the toilet was flushed, and would happen multiple times...
Once in a 1911 building there was a vintage American-Standard toilet that would shut off violently with "water hammer". I kept thinking it would break pipes!
I'm also kinda into plumbing...but not as much as lights! Laughing
lite_lover   [Jun 11, 2014 at 05:06 AM]
Nice work Ian!! Sure beats the 1.6 gpf toilets and others you push the handle up for #1 and down for a #2 Laughing
GEsoftwhite100watts   [Jun 11, 2014 at 05:37 AM]
Never heard of what Darren just described...although that's not a bad idea if on limited water!
lite_lover   [Jun 11, 2014 at 07:41 AM]
LilCinnamon   [Jun 11, 2014 at 08:47 AM]
You can install the dual-flush handle assembly on any Flushometer. It's the handle assembly itself that makes it dual flush, not the diaphragm.

By the way, you wouldn't particularly call this a "Tankless toilet" as it does have a tank, as I explained, it has an expansion bladder tank to maintain pressure.

This is in my basement, and it's not all that loud. I am actually surprised that I got it as powerful as I did, I didn't know that houses could get pressure up to that height. This toilet flushes with 3.5 Gallons Per Flush (gpf). As it was made in 1986. I got it on ebay NOS, and new in box too, so it was never before been used. Until as of now. xD
rjluna2   [Jun 11, 2014 at 11:30 AM]
I see you got yourself a banned toliet here Very Happy
TiCoune66   [Jun 11, 2014 at 05:08 PM]
Didn't know you were into toilets! I used to be like years ago xD And I knew over 20 different brands, but I forgot most of them. It kinda got replaced by lighting and other hobbies. I still have a bunch of videos of toilet flushes in my stuff, mainly tank views, 'cause that was the most interesting part to me LOL.
LilCinnamon   [Jun 11, 2014 at 06:07 PM]
I've been interested in them since I was little, it just recently spiked when I found the youtube community.

I'm still into lights, I just haven't been paying all too much attention to them as much anymore especially after I had to get rid of so many,
streetlight98   [Jun 11, 2014 at 08:29 PM]
BTW, tursn out that toilet i described at my school was only one. the rest of the toilets have AMERICAN and then STANDARD underneath american and there's a square black logo to the left of the words. the stamp is very dark and bolded. No visible jet either.
TiCoune66   [Jun 11, 2014 at 08:38 PM]
Sounds like their newer logo. I do remember American Standard had an older style logo with fancy styled letters or something xD I think they changed it sometime in the 70s or 80s, I never bothered to find out xD
GEsoftwhite100watts   [Jun 11, 2014 at 08:41 PM]
My house is all plumbed in PEX...except for some copper going to my hot-water tank since I have a small diesel stove with coils that heats the water. It's just a regular Richmond 50 gallon electric water heater but I've never wired the element up...although I might once I get my generator capeable of producing 240v going again...Nice thing about PEX is less fittings since it bends, hence less chances for leaks! It's supposed to not freeze and break, however I've seen it happen at a neighbor's house...split out just like copper. I hate copper plumbing...it's loud, breaks, etc...my late mother's house was 4 stories and if one of the outside hose bibs was on or the washing machine in the garage was filling the 3rd floor bathoom had hardly any pressure...10 minutes for the toilet to fill! It was also really loud...you could hear it 3 floors away if any amount of water was running!
streetlight98   [Jun 11, 2014 at 09:11 PM]
Ah my house is all copper pipe (from 2003) for the water supply and PVC for waste water. My house has good pressure (the pressure was actually too strong going to my house, which is why we were going through water heaters rapidly, the pressure was too much. This is our third water heater in the 11 years the house has been around (the water pressure issue was since corrected). Both times, the water heaters failed passively and all the water just leaked out through the bottom with a WUUUUUUUSH sound and then the sound of a few dozen gallons of water on the floor. I notice that older houses have lower/poorer pressure. I'm not sure if it's because the pressure was just lower way back when, if the pressure has decreased over time, or if the pipe layout is just poorly designed in older houses. Maybe a combination...
Form109   [Jun 12, 2014 at 01:57 AM]
I don't want to sound like a wet blanket....or offend anyone at all...but shouldn't stuff like this go in the General Discussion/General Non-Lighting portion of the Forums?
streetlight98   [Jun 12, 2014 at 02:15 AM]
It should go in the Non-Lighting related Stuff album, but in order to do that, it also has to appear in another album for whatever reason. So all my non-lighting pics apear in both the non-related album and the miscellaneous album. Ian owns the site so it's up to him in the end.
Form109   [Jun 12, 2014 at 02:32 AM]
it's not really a big issue for me it's just something I notice....on some forums I've been on the Moderators are very serious about stuff being in it's specified place...a little too rigid and no flexability I suppose.
dor123   [Jan 07, 2024 at 04:54 AM]
Where is the flush tank? Here in Israel, toilets have a flush tank behind the toilet itself.
rjluna2   [Jan 11, 2024 at 02:06 PM]
This is high pressure water flow system which it doesn't need gravity feed here.

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