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Title: Broken pole
Post by: Mercuryvapor123 on January 22, 2014, 01:22:41 PM
Hey Mike get a stepladder we have a light to collect! :D

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/broken-light-pole-in-detroit-worries-neighbors
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mike on January 22, 2014, 02:19:16 PM
LOL I'm on it!

 Check this one out.  (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/23916484/lighting-repairs-begin-in-several-detroit-neighborhoods)

the M-250R2s all look brand-new yet oddly enough they don't work and are being replaced with those hideous Holophane barrell shaped lights.
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mercuryvapor123 on January 22, 2014, 03:28:54 PM
Mike, I'm the one who posted that........ :D :P . Yea I know they are hideous. If I ever see one around here I'll do a little target practice on it.. LoL. You mean the GE's they just put up aren't working? That's unusual . I though that's what they were replacing the Holophanes with.
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mike on January 22, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
They were replacing the M-250r2s with Holophane lights but did you look at the row of R2s? They were all shiney like new! :o
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mercuryvapor123 on January 22, 2014, 04:12:05 PM
NO, Those were the replacements for the Holophane's .Thats why they look so new because they are. if you watch the video they take down that huge A frame arm with the Holophane  on it and replace it with the shorter bracket with an R2 on it, it's the first shot of the segment.
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mike on January 22, 2014, 04:18:55 PM
Oh yeah duh. When the reported said the lights "shot straight down whereas the new lights will project the light out more" i thouht she meant the cobraheads shot right down whereas the holphane lights would light more (but she was talking about the lamps being vertical compared to horizontal).

I actually think the holophane lights would light more but they're pretty fugly and they're glarebombs too.
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mercuryvapor123 on January 22, 2014, 04:22:35 PM
Yea those things look like they need to be in China or some foreign country not the U.S. >:(
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mike on January 22, 2014, 04:25:34 PM
Holophane makes some cool indoor HID lights and makes all sorts of cool OEM refractors and i like their drop lens highmasts but their street lights and other outdoor lights are pretty weird looking lol.
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mercuryvapor123 on January 22, 2014, 04:29:13 PM
I will agree with that. ;)
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: lights*plus on January 24, 2014, 10:08:28 PM
Hey Mike get a stepladder we have a light to collect! :D

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/broken-light-pole-in-detroit-worries-neighbors

As a Canadian citizen with gleaming rows of perfect poles & fixtures, I dig this post, so many thanks!
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mike on January 24, 2014, 10:23:41 PM
ahh they're very good at lighting maintenance in Canada? here they're pretty good too (except for on the freeways), mainly because i report every malfunctioning light i see. we the taxpayers pay for the lights regardless of wether they work or not so i'd prefer them to be working...
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mercuryvapor123 on January 25, 2014, 06:31:49 AM
Glad you like it, I myself like to see a not so perfect light pole every so often, I don't like everything so perfect all of the time ....It's too boring. And mike I do agree I do like to see the lights working in my area too, Unless I would like to see them put something else up then I just let it go long enough for the ballast to burn up. :D
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mike on January 25, 2014, 12:50:19 PM
LOL well i try to get the lights fixed before it's too late but generally the igniter goes not the ballast. :P
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: joe_347V on January 26, 2014, 03:55:11 AM
I guess it depends on the area, in my area lighting maintenance sucks and I've seen fixtures that have been dead or cycling for years. Usually the ignitor ends up dying so they slap a new FCO light on. 
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mike on January 26, 2014, 11:24:35 AM
do you report the lights? Here if i didn't report fixtures that didn't work there would probably be a lot more that don't work. For HPS lights, I will target dim 250W lamps (GE had an issue in the 90s that made the lamp dim out after a couple months, they loose vacuum so they don't get hot enough to warm up all the way), cycling or out lamps, and lights with missing doors. I will report lights with broken or missing refractors but i usually wait until either there's another issue like cycling since a lot of times the lamp will last longer with no refractor since there's less heat build-up.

for dayburners, I'm actually less concerned about those. NGrid overcharges for the lighting fees plus they still charge for non-working lights so the dayburners sort of level the playing field a little...
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Model25FanForever on January 26, 2014, 11:33:22 AM
I swear it that lights here get replaced for no reason at all. Most replacements ive seen around here are on fully functional lights and yet the ones that haven't worked for over a year are still in the same state. >:( ???
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: lights*plus on January 26, 2014, 05:08:20 PM
In my city, Montreal Quebec, failed lamps & fixtures get attented to in just a couple of days. A public works department fellow (paid sallary, car & other "perks"), drives around in the evenings checking for such failures.

Having said that, the municipal provincial & federal taxes we pay as citizens of this frozen land, is enough to push any red blooded American to war.
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mike on January 26, 2014, 05:49:48 PM
ahh so your lights are owned and maintained by the cities themselves? here they're basically all owned by the electric company. i think they rely mostly on people reporting that a light is out, at least enough to have a  page to report outages.  (https://www1.nationalgridus.com/Streetlight)
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: joe_347V on January 26, 2014, 06:43:25 PM
Here lights are owned by the city and they're in the process of changing out to LED (I swear they work undercover of something, as I've yet to see a crew or I'd ask them for a R37 and a OV-15).  I don't think they're really planning on maintaining the existing HPS lights for that reason. My street is still HPS but I noticed other streets in my neighbourhood with LED so it's soon before the OV-15 on my street are changed out.

According to here (http://www.markham.ca/wps/portal/Markham/AboutMarkham/NewsRoom/NewsReleases/markham-led-street-light-conversion/!ut/p/a0/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOJN_N2dnX3CLAKNgkwMDDw9XcJM_VwCDX09zPQLsh0VAcc4C2s!/) the lights are from Philips, GE and LED Roadway Lighting. They sorta look like a 3500K ish colour at night and yes they are dimmer than the HPS lights they replaced. They're planning to finish off in April so I guess the last of the HPS lumes on residential streets will be gone soon.

So boring now that every residential street is filled with them, before we used to have a nice mix of R37, OV-15, R47, Unidor 150, OVZ, 115, on our streets.
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Mike on January 26, 2014, 09:59:16 PM
Such a shame. :( yeah the same happened when a lot of places went from T12 to T8, they let most of the lamps fail. I was told that's how you could predict a T8 changeover was on the way. i guess on the flip side, they're atleast going to se GE, Philips and LRL lights instead of just one company.

LRL fixtures are made right in Canada too. i have a LRL sell sheet that i got from someone who works for NStar, a Massachusetts electric company. Maybe I'll scan it and upload it...
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: Model25FanForever on January 26, 2014, 10:46:16 PM
The residential streets here are still using HPS 95% of the time but they are showing up in higher numbers and more frequently now. LED's are going to kill off the rest of the residential shoebox's and twistpaks here. Not to mention the only underbraced arms here are already being killed off too by the Cooper NVN's. There were a 2 of them I know of that were replaced by new tapered e arm 115's. It was a R37 and the other was a OV-15 :(
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: joe_347V on January 26, 2014, 10:55:31 PM
Well, they said online that they're multiple lumes but I think in reality these outnumber the other brands.

(http://www.galleryoflights.org/mb/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_MKM_IMG_0264.JPG)

Fortunately a street in my neighbourhood was used a a test bed for LED so there's three different kinds of lumes in use there. (Philips, Cooper OVZ, and LRL lights) Well at least I'm glad that most of them are made in Canada though.

And what you said about the T8 changeout thing was so true, I know a supermarket that stayed T12 slimline for the longest time. The lights always had bad maintenance (dead lamps, dead ballasts) in the last two years leading up to the T5 conversion.

If anything, I hope I can acquire the OV-15 that's in front of my house for my collection. My house was built in 1982 so that's probably one of the last OV-15s made by Westinghouse. A newer section of my street, built in 1985 still used OV-15s but they were the Crouse Hinds ones. 
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: lite_lover on March 02, 2014, 11:44:56 PM
Hey Joe,hopefully you will be able to get the OV-15!
Title: Re: Broken pole
Post by: joe_347V on March 04, 2014, 12:37:26 AM
Thanks Darren!, hopefully I will. They're changing out more streets but mine is still HPS for now.