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The Old Panel
Here's a shot of the old fuse panel, before it was replaced.
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The Old Panel

Here's a shot of the old fuse panel, before it was replaced.

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Album name:gailgrove / Electrical Stuff
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joe_347V   [Aug 24, 2013 at 04:00 AM]
Shocked I guess I know why you'd replaced it.
gailgrove   [Aug 24, 2013 at 04:06 AM]
Yeah, I wouldn't have done just for the heck of it, but since it needed to be done I figured I could save some money doing it myself. It still cost close to $700, but that's much less than an electrician would've charged.
joe_347V   [Aug 25, 2013 at 04:53 AM]
Well, I guess the surge protector you put in with the new panel also added in to the cost. I know AFCI breakers (although I don't see any) are also pretty expensive too.
gailgrove   [Aug 25, 2013 at 05:09 AM]
The surge protector was about $90, thankfully AFCIs aren't required when just changing a panel, only if you are building a new house.
Antstar85   [Aug 25, 2013 at 01:56 PM]
Here in Massachusetts, AFCI are required on any new circuit installed, or any mods of exsisting circuits in exsisting homes.
gailgrove   [Aug 25, 2013 at 05:31 PM]
Here they are only required on bedroom receptacle circuits and that's only for new construction.
Antstar85   [Aug 25, 2013 at 06:24 PM]
The only circuits not required to have AFCI are the kitchen outlets, bathroom outlets, washer/dryer outlets, boiler/furnace circuits.
gailgrove   [Aug 25, 2013 at 07:25 PM]
That sounds absolutely nuts... Houses have been fine without them for years, I can't help but wonder if the manufacturers may have "donated" some money to have that section placed in the Code...
streetlight98   [Aug 25, 2013 at 07:46 PM]
my house only has the AFCI breaker for the bedrooms. they're gray a chubby compared to the regular back breakers. If you touched the nuetral wire of an outlet would an AFCI breaker trip?
Antstar85   [Aug 25, 2013 at 08:29 PM]
Neutral to ground contact will trip and AFCI breaker. You also get that with GFCI breakers as well. The requirement for most circuits to be on an AFCI started with the 2008 NEC.
joe_347V   [Aug 25, 2013 at 10:07 PM]
Mine was built in 1982 and only has a GFCI breaker for the garage and outside outlets.
streetlight98   [Aug 25, 2013 at 10:11 PM]
Ahh that explains why the breaker tripped when i was uninstalling the light in my room. The switch was off but ti was plugged in so the neutral was still "live" for lack of a better term.

The bedroom outlet circcuits in my house (2003) have the AFCI breakers.
Model25FanForever   [Aug 26, 2013 at 12:04 AM]
We just use fuses Razz
joe_347V   [Aug 26, 2013 at 03:21 AM]
Heh, fuses are still pretty safe as long as nothing is overloaded or you don't stick a penny behind one. Shocked
gailgrove   [Aug 26, 2013 at 04:03 AM]
Fuses are actually far safer than breakers, a breaker can stick shut and not trip, a fuse obviously can't. The only issue is people bypassing and installing larger fuses. If they still made fuse panels I would've installed one, just to be different.
joe_347V   [Aug 26, 2013 at 04:51 AM]
I think they still make the inserts but they don't make new panels anymore. I guess if you had the room, you could put a fused disconnect on each circuit. Razz
gailgrove   [Aug 26, 2013 at 04:58 AM]
We did look for a new insert but couldn't find any.
Model25FanForever   [Aug 26, 2013 at 12:30 PM]
I wouldn't want to stick a penny in one. There was a fire around not too long ago and they thought it would be a great idea to have 3 fridges and a dryer plus your common household appliances on 15a type D fuses and when the fuses were overloaded there was a small fire and the person was crazy and put water on an electrical fire Rolling Eyes
streetlight98   [Aug 26, 2013 at 12:58 PM]
3 fridges? geeze how many people are living in that house? Shocked Laughing I live with my two parents and my little brother and we only have one fridge lol.
Model25FanForever   [Aug 26, 2013 at 02:28 PM]
4 people I heard. But I don't know what they do with all those fridges Laughing

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