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Linear halogen inside. Pros and cons?
The "EMOS A60 ECO" lamp compared to an "Osram Classic Superstar".
The EMOS lamp has a linear halogen inside so it needs longer bulb than the latter. It also gives off almost no light in the cap/filament axis direction. I wonder if there are any advantages in this approach?
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Linear halogen inside. Pros and cons?

The "EMOS A60 ECO" lamp compared to an "Osram Classic Superstar".
The EMOS lamp has a linear halogen inside so it needs longer bulb than the latter. It also gives off almost no light in the cap/filament axis direction. I wonder if there are any advantages in this approach?

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Filename:hpc3.jpg
Album name:merc / Lamps
Keywords:Lamps
Company and Date Manufactured:EMOS (re-seller), China
Model Number:A60 ECO
Wattage:105 W
Lamp Type:halogen GLS retrofit, E27
Filesize:410 KiB
Date added:Apr 26, 2015
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DateTime Original:2015:04:26 13:00:31
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Focal length:7.1 mm
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Make:Fujifilm
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Model:X30
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streetlight98   [Apr 26, 2015 at 01:14 PM]
I think the double-ended ones are much better performance-wise. I've always been told by other members on the LG that the double-ended quartz capsules are better than the single-end ones.
merc   [Apr 26, 2015 at 01:33 PM]
@Mike: Yeah, I've also read opinions like this... But they could be easily based just on a faulty series of single-end capsules issued once that made people hate them.
I can't see any big difference - three supporting points in both cases and a smaller capsule in the case of single-end version is rather a performance advantage (if I'm not mistaken...).
Medved   [Apr 26, 2015 at 04:49 PM]
One major difference is the insulation distance - the linear does not have two points with full mains voltage close to each other, but really as far as the overall size allows. That means the gas fill design has one constrain less, so in the theory could be better optimized for the efficacy/life.
Or lower cost...
merc   [Apr 26, 2015 at 08:31 PM]
This looks like a logical explanation. Although flashover voltage for a dry air (40% of rel. humidity) is about 1mm for 1kV at 20 deg. Celsius, it's something different in a halogen capsule that's hot like hell inside. That's probably why incandescents sometime got arc between filament supports (or a partway) when filament opens although the filling of a regular GLS might support it in a different way. The other reason to put them further apart might be vibrations that could shorten the distance in case the filament before EOL is slack.

Btw. (as discussed in another thread), here you can see those 100,000 switching cycles directly on the box.
rjluna2   [Apr 26, 2015 at 08:50 PM]
As long as the filament goes to the pressed quartz tube, the flashover wil be over before it starts Very Happy

Nice to see 105 watts incandescent halogen bulb here. I wish we have those incandescent halogen bulbs sold in our market with this wattage rating Sad
merc   [Apr 26, 2015 at 09:01 PM]
What's the maximum for this kind of lamp in the U.S., Robert? You don't need such a high wattage as at your 120V the same wattage is brighter than at our power system. Cool
streetlight98   [Apr 26, 2015 at 09:02 PM]
All I can say is that the Chinese GE halogens are horrible. And it seems that all halogens seem to dim out when run horizontally. They apparently have to be run vertically or they'll dim out fast (the capsule gets a silver coating on it).
rjluna2   [Apr 27, 2015 at 11:18 AM]
The maximum wattage for incandescent halogen general purpose lamps we get are 72 Watts. We have 150, 200 and 300 Watts incandescent light bulb that are exempt from the ban.

In the past Philips and its knockoff used to sell up to 150 Watts of incandescent halogen bulbs in BT15 shaped envelope.
merc   [Apr 27, 2015 at 06:06 PM]
Thanks, Robert.
Here, you can still get classical GLS incandescents up to 100W either as "heaters" for hen houses, greenhouses etc. Smile - to circumvent the bans or as rough-service lamps.
I haven't seen anything stronger than 100W for years though.

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