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Fixed yet again
Here is the ole OV-25 I fixed about a year and a half ago. Came in early this morning and noticed it was out again. I was figuring that was it with this fixture since it only probably made it a year since it was last serviced. I had one last 400 watt merc lamp left on the truck and went up and checked to make sure the fixture still had power. Good thing power was still at the pole, I then changed out the lamp and photocell and the fixture fired right up. Hopefully it will keep going since this is the last merc light in this station and we no longer have any merc lamps left. If it goes again, it will be swaped out to HPS.
Keywords: American_Streetlights

Fixed yet again

Here is the ole OV-25 I fixed about a year and a half ago. Came in early this morning and noticed it was out again. I was figuring that was it with this fixture since it only probably made it a year since it was last serviced. I had one last 400 watt merc lamp left on the truck and went up and checked to make sure the fixture still had power. Good thing power was still at the pole, I then changed out the lamp and photocell and the fixture fired right up. Hopefully it will keep going since this is the last merc light in this station and we no longer have any merc lamps left. If it goes again, it will be swaped out to HPS.

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Album name:Antstar85 / Lights I have removed, replaced or repaired
Keywords:American_Streetlights
Company and Date Manufactured:Westinghouse
Model Number:OV-25
Wattage:400
Lamp Type:Mercury
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Date added:Jun 19, 2015
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Solanaceae   [Jun 19, 2015 at 09:24 PM]
Nice. We have lots of older lights like these in the old part of town. I would like one of these, but teh city hasn't responded to me. Sad if I get one I will change it out to 250w Mercury. If it is replaced, would you mind removing the ballast and shipping it to me? I'll pay of course.
streetlight98   [Jun 19, 2015 at 09:26 PM]
Ah the lamp failed that soon? What brand was it? That's pretty pathetic. Did you happen to see if the fixture just needed a new PC? I've noticed those Sun-Tech PCs fail off sometimes, so the light appears to have a dead lamp when in fact it's just the PC that failed open-circuit. Those Sun-Techs are just so awful. I'm glad to see you guys are using a different brand! Though those "low cost" Intermatics are nothing too great either... Laughing I had one of those Intermatics but I sanded off the ink on the side to make it plain white so it looked like a 60s tall Ripley photocell. Dunno what happened to it... I had a blue one too and kept the ink on it but I gave it to someone.

I've actually noticed a few instances where NGrid changed a lamp in a HPS light and kept the old PC in place. Must be just one lineman or something. Also, NGrid has been hard at work the past week or so fixing the freeway lights at an interchange near my house. It's the last major interchange around here with NGrid-owned lighting. The rest of the NGrid lights have been ripped out and replaced with RIDOT-owned relay-controlled lights with meters. These NGrid lights have PCs and are unmetered just like wood pole lights. They're all 250W HPS drop lens M-250R2s. Anyway, NGrid has been nothing short of a joke when it comes to maintaining the freeway lighting they own (which is partly why RIDOT has been replacing the NGrid-owned lights, also with the fact that RIDOT wants to save money buy shutting the lights off part way though the night via the relay timer box). So anyway, I think they've left these lights alone since they're eventually planning to reconfigure the interchange so they don't want to waste money putting up a new lighting system.

Finally, after literally years of tormenting the state DOT and NGrid, I've gotten them to fix these lights lol. They've been working sun up to sun down on these lights every Wednesday through Friday this week and last week (why only those days, I don't know lol). Apparently they've given up on replacing lamps and PCs because they've just been installing new fixtures and fishing new wires through the conduit instead lol. Most of the issues were wiring issues but they're installing new fixtures too (keeping the old poles and pole foundations though). I can't wait to see it at night. FINALLY the interchange will be lit! They've replaced too knocked-down poles that I am aware of, but there's still around a dozen or so missing poles. They won't replace them because they've been gone so long that the anchor bolts for the pole are too rusted and they're too lazy/cheap to put in a new foundation for a new pole.

Eventually, RIDOT plans to totally eliminate any remaining NGrid-owned freeway lighting systems. I'm going to miss the awesome Narragansett Electric 10ft truss and 6ft tapered elliptical poles with the drop lens M-250R2s but the RIDOT systems are much better maintained (but they're boring davit poles, now with LEDs instead of the HPS M-400 FCOs that they've been using).
Antstar85   [Jun 19, 2015 at 11:52 PM]
Yeah the lamp failed to. I changed the photocell first and still nothing then I changed the lamp and it fired. the lamp I originally used was a Sylvania believe it or not. it now has a GE lamp installed. We no longer get Mercury lamps in stock so this fixture will be changed to HPS the next time it goes out.

Oh were still using Sun Techs. We got a bunch of these intermatics in ironically because we went through so many sun techs we had to go to an electric supply house and buy some controls to get us through until the next shipment of controls come in LOL.

I hear you about the old classics. MDOT is changing all the highway lighting out here to LED. A lot of the OV-15's have been all changed out to the AEL autobahn fixtures. sad thing is the state isn't checking the wiring because half of them don't work LOL. It's almost a waist!

@Solanaceae- Unfortunately it's not that easy to get old equipment anymore. The new company is just way to strict on getting stuff.
Solanaceae   [Jun 19, 2015 at 11:58 PM]
Sounds like a shorted ballast. Neutral
streetlight98   [Jun 20, 2015 at 01:23 AM]
It wouldn't light with a new lamp if the ballast was shorted... Ah I see lol. That's probably why NGrid is reusing some of the old PCs. I still see a number of dayburners so I can only imagine how many duds they go through. Fortunately if they're not dead out of the box, they tend to continue working, however there's one near me that shuts off VERY late (still comes on when it's virtually pitch black though, yet the sun has to shine right at the window to shut it off. Weird. It's been like that since it was installed about a year ago. It's in a 50W drop lens M-250R2.

The freeway lights that were installed by the former utility BVE never have wiring problems. Lamps and photocells is all they ever need. Yet the NECo ones frequently have wiring issues. NGrid will install brand new lights and get them all going and a month later the whole string is out again. Of course, half the freeway lights they've fixed at this interchange the past week are dayburning. Rolling Eyes Laughing I guess their main concern right now is to just get the lights working. NGrid owes the state money for all the years they've billed them for the non-working lights anyway so it's only fair. Laughing
Solanaceae   [Jun 20, 2015 at 03:14 AM]
If it is CWA it could be a dud capacitor.
streetlight98   [Jun 20, 2015 at 01:36 PM]
It's not the ballast. He said that it worked with a new lamp. Wink
Antstar85   [Jun 20, 2015 at 03:37 PM]
Yeah the fixture works fine again, I let the fixture run for 10 mins after service and it got to full brightness. These generation Mercury lamps just don't last like they used to. We usually got a mix of lamp manufactures in, either sylvania or GE. I've witnessed both brands crap out after a short period of time. We were big sylvania HPS lamp users but changed to EYE last year.
streetlight98   [Jun 20, 2015 at 04:15 PM]
I've always thought Sylvania was good stuff. Oh well. Sad I know Philips are bad. The arctube frame welds go bad after a couple years from natural vibration from being in service (I've seen new Philips HIDs in Home Depot that have had the welds fail in transit to the store shelf! The arc tube just floats loosely inside the lamp envelope!) Did you guys have issues with Sylvania HPS or did they just randomly change to EYE? NGrid always used GE lamps since they took over in 2000 (and NECo used GE lamps too since like the 80s, except for in the mid-90s 113s, since the lights came boxed with Philips lamps installed, so they just used them). But then NGrid switched to Sylvania a few years so. The Sylvania HPS lamps are more yellow-ish than the GEs, which are more of a peachy orange color IMO.
mercuryvaporrocks   [Jun 20, 2015 at 06:18 PM]
Duquense Light used to use GE mercury vapor lamps but the newer ones were going bad after only 3 or 4 years and they started replacing their mercury vapor street lights with high pressure sodium street lights because they were just tired of relamping them non-stop and they just wanted to be done with it.
Antstar85   [Jun 22, 2015 at 01:27 PM]
@mike, they just randomly changed to EYE for what reason I have no idea but they resemble the color of sylvania very nicely. I agree with you about GE's liking peachy, we used to swap between the two brands and it would look odd if we were doing group replacements and having GE and sylvania mixed it. We also started get EYE metal halide lamps in as well.
streetlight98   [Jun 22, 2015 at 03:52 PM]
Ah you guys have MHs in your system too? NGrid is all about the HPS lol.
streetlight98   [Jan 22, 2016 at 12:50 AM]
Is this oldie still hanging on?
Solanaceae   [Jan 22, 2016 at 12:18 PM]
Wow, by looking back on this post I see how much I've learned in about six months. Man I was a dummy back then. Laughing Razz
streetlight98   [Jan 22, 2016 at 06:45 PM]
LOL I know the feeling. I look back at some of my posts back in 2009 and I'm like "damn son, you is stuuuupid!" Laughing

Before I became connected to the rest of the lighting world and actually got to know anything about it, I had no idea on manufacturers, models, lamp types, etc. I used to think that the clear bulbs were orange and the white coating on some lamps made the orange lamp white. and I used to think the NEMA tag's number was 1/100th of the wattage instead of 1/10th (meaning a "5" meant 500W instead of 50) because the street lights were so much brighter than regular house lamps. This is back in elementary school. I also knew the "knob" on top of the light had something to do with turning it on and off, but I thought it was some sort of timer that the electric company came around and adjusted. I guess looking back I was actually pretty observant on some things and actually not 100% wrong about them (like the sticker on the door actually did stand for the wattage, but not in the way I thought and how the knob on the light did control when it turned on but not in the way I though). Not bad for knowing absolutely nothing about lighting but comical to an older me.

When I was really little I thought there were tunnels under all the streets and I thought there was a pull-chain in the tunnel under each street light and workers underground would pull the pull chain for each light to turn them on. Laughing
Antstar85   [Jan 23, 2016 at 04:16 PM]
This light is still working!
lightingfan8902   [Jan 24, 2016 at 03:33 AM]
Ahh, you got the Westinghouse street light to work, nice. Very Happy

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